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a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i wa to play that. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that was like a smile. >> yes. so that's -- you know, sort of nonverbal asin cronie. between either the content of what the person is saying and the nonverbals are saying or asynchronies between the nonverbals. when you are saying you are following someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. ewers don't know why, but it makes them feel bad. it is very adversive to see that kind of thing. >> there are reports that romney's team is preparing what are called zingers for tomorrow night's debate. when a candidate has been stung by one, it can be very effective. the exchange between ronald reagan and w
a classic example going back to 2007, john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i wa to play that. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he is responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans, he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america, we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, bring him to justice and i'll follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, gosh. >> that...
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john mccain couldn't get him to release it. i got him to release it he spent $2.8 million trying to fight it. in one way i am proud of him but i don't know what it is. >> more than that, you know what i want to see? i want to see the college transcripts. he goes from ox ten tal columbia top schools in the nation. >> when he does the cover of the book it didn't get printed but it was when he was younger it says born in kenya raised in indonesia. born in kenya born in indonesia. then the publisher comes out and sort of immediately said it was so then said it was a typographical errors. the word the, the word a. born in kenya raised in indones indonesia. maybe he said it for other reasons. >> to sell the book. >> maybe for others. is that a typographical error? >>> oo you have written many more i have got to be honest you go over every one of those lines in detail. that is not something that is -- >> supposedly that line is dictated him. >> i would like to know if there is definitive evidence it has never been my main issue. it is
john mccain couldn't get him to release it. i got him to release it he spent $2.8 million trying to fight it. in one way i am proud of him but i don't know what it is. >> more than that, you know what i want to see? i want to see the college transcripts. he goes from ox ten tal columbia top schools in the nation. >> when he does the cover of the book it didn't get printed but it was when he was younger it says born in kenya raised in indonesia. born in kenya born in indonesia. then...
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john mccain was being. so we did, you know, a survey of all of our ads and said that only 15% of them or less were negative, but people were hearing those, and that's the image they got. we then said, well, the obama people were more negative than mccain. it's true, he was running more negative ads because he had so much more money, he could run the negative ads and still run a bunch of positive ads. but that's been what we're used to, the idea that there's going to be a mix of positive and negative, and the candidates genuinely worry that they're going to be seen as too negative. and so they have reputational risk and election risk at stake in their ads. the super pac ads don't have the same risk. we don't know who these people are, we don't much, you know, care what we think of them, and they are 99.9% negative. .. if you allow one person to of anonymously solely the debate any significant way, you know, there's -- >> surely the mechanisms while they're not as sharp, super pacs still to stand. that is if
john mccain was being. so we did, you know, a survey of all of our ads and said that only 15% of them or less were negative, but people were hearing those, and that's the image they got. we then said, well, the obama people were more negative than mccain. it's true, he was running more negative ads because he had so much more money, he could run the negative ads and still run a bunch of positive ads. but that's been what we're used to, the idea that there's going to be a mix of positive and...
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there's a classic example i think going back to 2007 of john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that for our viewers. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans. he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america. we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, we will bring him to justice and i will follow him to the gates of hell. >> okay. >> oh, god. >> there was like a smile. >> that was really hard to watch. yes. so that's a sort of nonverbal -- it's a mismatch between what the person is saying and what their nonverbals are saying, or between nonverbals. when you're saying something negative that you will follow someone to the gates of hell, you shouldn't be smiling. it creates i think a visceral negative response in viewers. they don't even know why but it makes them feel bad. it's very aversive to see that kind of thing. >> there have been reports the romney team have been preparing zingers for tomorrow night's debate. you say
there's a classic example i think going back to 2007 of john mccain talking about osama bin laden. i want to play that for our viewers. >> another painful one. >> on the subject of osama bin laden, he's responsible for the deaths of thousands of innocent americans. he is now orchestrating other attacks on the united states of america. we will do whatever is necessary, we will track him down, we will capture, we will bring him to justice and i will follow him to the gates of hell....
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what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. it contains some of the most devisive class warfare rhetoric ever used by barack obama. that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay close attention to. >> that was fox news tonight. "huffington post" released tape of echoing the remarks about 47% of the country not taking responsible for their lives. paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc co
what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. it contains some of the most devisive class warfare rhetoric ever used by barack obama. that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay...
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what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are troubling times in the kingdom. more discounts than we knoweth what to do with. now that's progressive. >>> you're about to see it for the first time. it contains some of the most divisive class warfare rhetoric ever used by barack obama. that's what journalists have been trying to hide for years. it's a glimpse into the mind of the real barack obama and it's one that all americans need to pay close attention to. >> that was fox news tonight. "huffington post" released tape of echoing the remarks about 47% of the country not taking responsible for their lives. paul ryan's remarks were th
what are the lessons from john mccain having not gone there in 2008 when he had the chance? the senior strategist from 2008 joins us next. overmany discounts to thine customers! [old english accent] safe driver, multi-car, paid in full -- a most fulsome bounty indeed, lord jamie. thou cometh and we thy saveth! what are you doing? we doth offer so many discounts, we have some to spare. oh, you have any of those homeowners discounts? here we go. thank you. he took my shield, my lady. these are...
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. >> sean: remember john mccain did not look obama in the eye. i mean, if there's certain characteristics that you want to lay out for somebody heading into a debate, he's got to be presidential. probably can't call him a liar, but could point out broken promises, failed policies. >> "there you go again" works pretty well. >> sean: or some version thereof. i think people would like to see somebody -- i've never seen this president take a verbal punch. >> i also think people want to know that mitt romney can win the argument. i mean, i think part of the reason you see in the campaign in the doldrums a little bit for two weeks is that people want somebody who's going to stand and fight. margaret thatcher, prime minister thatcher, used to say, first you win the argument, then you win the vote. that's i think the challenge that romney faces. >> sean: mr. speaker, good to see you. >> good to be with you. >> sean: glad you're here. when we come back, a devastating new ad is coming up. we'll have that for you. it deals with the banghazi attacks. also th
. >> sean: remember john mccain did not look obama in the eye. i mean, if there's certain characteristics that you want to lay out for somebody heading into a debate, he's got to be presidential. probably can't call him a liar, but could point out broken promises, failed policies. >> "there you go again" works pretty well. >> sean: or some version thereof. i think people would like to see somebody -- i've never seen this president take a verbal punch. >> i also...
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you really know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on message and on offense. as you saw in the debates in florida against newt gingrich when he got on offense, the governor was very effective. when he leans into a debate, he can be pretty effective. >> bill: all right. weakness? >> weaknesses, when he gets -- like most every politician, when he gets defensive, that's when he makes mistakes. the $10,000 bet came when governor romney was being defensive about his health care policy and there have been other instances where other debaters have been able to get him on the defense and when that happens, he tends to look bad. >> bill: all right. you know that president obama is going to try to do that. he's going to question his health care criticism, his flip flops on variou
you really know this turf because you worked for john mccain when he ran against barak obama in 2008 and now in the primary season, you worked for mitt romney. let's assess the governor's strengths and weaknesses as a debater first. strengths? >> well, i think the governor is a very good messenger. he's a good orator, he can deliver a speech. he's very good when he's on message and on offense. as you saw in the debates in florida against newt gingrich when he got on offense, the governor...
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the "new york times" wrote it saying, quote, do exactly what john mccain would not let us do in 2008. the plans suggested hiring an extremely literate african-american to sell the message and label the president a metrosexual black abe lincoln. >> yeah. listen, i'm not sure exactly -- >> that's a halloween costume. >> i don't know what they mean by the last comment. but george will who i normally respect, this president has enjoyed the numbers that he is now and despite the rags initialized attacks. the reason this deck was disapproved by romney is because they don't need it. they've had the welfare ads and this strategy has been in place in other ways and it was exposed early enough so folks could see the inner workings behind back room door strategy sessions. >> well, it's playing into that stereotype. angry black man. i know some blacks that are angry that he's not more angry. >> how about that and happy birthday, rev. >> thank you. james peterson, ana marie cox, thank you for your time tonight. >> yep. and happy birthday. >> thank you. >>> still ahead, it all comes down to this. 1
the "new york times" wrote it saying, quote, do exactly what john mccain would not let us do in 2008. the plans suggested hiring an extremely literate african-american to sell the message and label the president a metrosexual black abe lincoln. >> yeah. listen, i'm not sure exactly -- >> that's a halloween costume. >> i don't know what they mean by the last comment. but george will who i normally respect, this president has enjoyed the numbers that he is now and...
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mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not been able to make the sale. that's what the polls show. that's why this thing is close. why hasn't he and what's he going to do tonight differently than he's done in the past. >> i think he's going to make the contrast with president obama, why expanding the pie is in the national interest. not redistributing an ever slowing economy but expanding the pie so everybody gets a job that wants a job, people's salaries are rising. i think he needs to lay out the picture, paint the picture for the audience, frankly, larry, of what america would look like
mccain did not get down four years ago. i hate to say that. this is a choice between tax cuts and tax hikes. you need to make that case. now i want to hear from our panelists in the kudlow caucus. former clinton white house aide, keith boykin. rick lazio, former republican congressman from new york. rick lazio, i begin with you, good evening to you. >> hello, larry. >> this is a gigantic audience, the key issue of our time is still the economy and jobs. so far mitt romney has not...
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in 2008 barack obama took florida, the majority of seniors voted for john mccain because they were hesitant how the health care reform would take place. talking about ryan and medicare and seniors, it comes down to florida. >> florida, florida, florida, david. she is right about one thing. if you look at the poll, the one area where you see consistent movement poll after poll after poll toward barack obama has been with senior citizens. you know as well as i do, they are a consistent voting block. they go to the polls in larger percentages. has the obama administration been successful at branding the medicare plan of the republicans as voucher care and are senior citizens moving away because they're afraid of the medicare changes? >> the ryan budget plan existed in terms of the 2010 election when republicans won 65 plus seniors by 21 points. part of the dynamic that exists here is, in fact, seniors are really unhappy with president obama's health care plan. what you see is this significant concern handling medicare, four years ago republicans would lose that by 25 points. now it's down in l
in 2008 barack obama took florida, the majority of seniors voted for john mccain because they were hesitant how the health care reform would take place. talking about ryan and medicare and seniors, it comes down to florida. >> florida, florida, florida, david. she is right about one thing. if you look at the poll, the one area where you see consistent movement poll after poll after poll toward barack obama has been with senior citizens. you know as well as i do, they are a consistent...
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to lose control. >> john mccain clearly won this battle on points. >> so this is it every time. i actually thought that he was during the primary a subpar debater. in fact, debate after debate in which he wouldn't throw the punch and this was the big -- >> right. i think part of the issue is romney has been making so many big mistakes and has been so underperforming. a lot of us forgot he can stay say coherent things and can be good at debates and thought that president obama's campaign has been on. >> but this is where the kind of film clips that you have can be very useful because we can have pictures of romney saying the 47% and now the 100%. >> right. >> that i'm against regulation and i'm for regulation. >> right. >> when you put those clips together like you just did, it really comes out very powerful. you can't control the environment in the way that you could before. >> no. and we remember with hillary clinton, they were saying that obama didn't look up, but he didn't look up in that debate with hillary clinton. >> right. >> again, that is who he is. i think we are total
to lose control. >> john mccain clearly won this battle on points. >> so this is it every time. i actually thought that he was during the primary a subpar debater. in fact, debate after debate in which he wouldn't throw the punch and this was the big -- >> right. i think part of the issue is romney has been making so many big mistakes and has been so underperforming. a lot of us forgot he can stay say coherent things and can be good at debates and thought that president...
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people don't realize that john mccain won white women by seven points. that is not enough to win, given at republicans have to win white voters overall. but when you look at white women voters, they are more likely to vote republican, and that includes white women without college degrees, women who are married, particularly women who have children. when you look at the differences between white women who are married and white women who are single, whether it be not married, widowed, or divorced, those voters, those groups of voters overwhelmingly for obama. is ron is rig -- if ron is right and the president is making some gains with a non-college- educated white women, that is problematic for our side. i have not seen as much of a shift as he has noted. >> ok, let's open it up. >> everyone says -- >> are we doing mikes? here we go. >> people say the vp choices don't matter, but they are next up. given what happened last night, is it important, the next debate? does it mean that people are going to, based on what happened last night, say, "yes, now i am f
people don't realize that john mccain won white women by seven points. that is not enough to win, given at republicans have to win white voters overall. but when you look at white women voters, they are more likely to vote republican, and that includes white women without college degrees, women who are married, particularly women who have children. when you look at the differences between white women who are married and white women who are single, whether it be not married, widowed, or...
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john mccain is to go on and on. he said the problem is presented that with these millions of dollars of ads being spent in arizona and nothing else. where the people came to beverages and not on doors and drove people to polls. that is what we want. i think he's right. that is what she wants in a democracy is engaged electorate. getting them to donate is not only part of that, but that leads to these other things. what you don't want is a bunch of people dazed and stagger off to the polling booth if they haven't been sufficiently dissolution. >> purity number two has been the patient. >> banks. i just wanted to ask a question about the difficulty of reporting on a system that has become so much more complicated in the last eight years, but especially the last two years for so many different players enrolled agent these, i mean, we see everyday by the one c. fours are super packs. that is the basic level, but even talking about spending as opposed to super -- super pac. they say how do you say that in a resurgence? t
john mccain is to go on and on. he said the problem is presented that with these millions of dollars of ads being spent in arizona and nothing else. where the people came to beverages and not on doors and drove people to polls. that is what we want. i think he's right. that is what she wants in a democracy is engaged electorate. getting them to donate is not only part of that, but that leads to these other things. what you don't want is a bunch of people dazed and stagger off to the polling...
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there was press attention in the mccain campaign and-john mccain was being. we did a survey and 60% or less of the more negative. we said the obama people were more negative than mccain. he had so much money he to run negative ads as well as the positive ads. the candidates worried that they will be seen as too negative. they have a reputational risk at stake and there as. the super pak ads do not have the same risk. they and 99.9%-. negative. after the election, that is something i think we need to think about as an effect of this new kind -- campaign finance world is that the message the american people are getting -- >> another interest against anonymity -- it seems relatively small in comparison with the other issues. if you'll let one person to anonymously sully the debate in a significant way, there is a cost. >> if there is a widespread perception mitt romney does not have influence over what the super back contained, he will be expected to stand up and defend it. >> mitt romney said he did not see those ads. goshm, gewe - there are clear cases where c
there was press attention in the mccain campaign and-john mccain was being. we did a survey and 60% or less of the more negative. we said the obama people were more negative than mccain. he had so much money he to run negative ads as well as the positive ads. the candidates worried that they will be seen as too negative. they have a reputational risk at stake and there as. the super pak ads do not have the same risk. they and 99.9%-. negative. after the election, that is something i think we...
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but an interesting interview with john mccain. he's saying he's damned if he's going to give up freedom of speech because it may possibly offend the prophet muhammed. what do you make of that? >> well, he's certainly right on that. there's going to be no disagreement there. i think that the republicans are increasingly going to focus on what happened in libya, why there wasn't better security for ambassador stevens, and i think that's a legitimate area to poke on. i do think it's kind of small bore. this is not something the president is deciding on, the security in benghazi. i think that also, while obama has his failures in foreign policy, they are not ones that romney can easily pick up on. >> he could always, i would imagine, in a debate turn on i killed osama bin laden. that is an undisputable vote winner for the american public. >> one of my friends on facebook was joking that he should have -- they should have cremated osama bin laden, should have placed the urn of ashes on the podium beside him. i think that on the nationa
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. >>> coming up, senator john mccain joins us on set. also, senator chuck schumer, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and tom brokaw. >>> up next, mike allen up next with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> happy october, everyone. this is the month of change weatherwise, where we start to cool things off in a hurry and start to watch the leaves coming down. as we head through this month, expect a much cooler month than we've had in months past. we're looking at the middle of the country especially with below-average temperatures as we go throughout the first two weeks. now, as far as this morning goes, two big storms on the map. one has been plaguing northern new england all weekend long. the other one has been plaguing the deep south. they're both on the move today. and we are going to watch that rainy weather spreading. also severe storms are possible once again in alabama into georgia from atlanta to birmingham to montgomery, maybe even some isolated tornadoes. we'll kee
. >>> coming up, senator john mccain joins us on set. also, senator chuck schumer, "new york times" columnist frank bruni and tom brokaw. >>> up next, mike allen up next with the top stories in the "politico playbook." first, bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> happy october, everyone. this is the month of change weatherwise, where we start to cool things off in a hurry and start to watch the leaves coming down. as we head through this month,...
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we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some of the misses. good morning. >> good morning. well, i'm here in new york, so maybe we should talk about what happens, how you get to carnegie hall, practice, practice, practice. and is that clearly is what helped the mitt romney. he spent a lot of time practicing, really for the past month doing these mock debates. and when it comes to the president, he was rusty. right out of the gate, it was clear. mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago. that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regu
we'll be talking live with john mccain of arizona and rand paul of kentucky. from team obama, we'll be speaking with martin o'malley and campaign spokeswoman, jen psaki. plus, obama's former economic adviser, austan goolsbee. first, though, a look at the instant reaction from the debate in the cnn/orc poll, of debate watchers taken right after the debate, 67% say they think romney won. 25% only thought the president won. cnn's dana bash joins us this morning to go over some of the hits and some...